ok so a botched landing is normal?? why was the vid taken off youtube? he not only botched it he almost flipped the aircraft over. Are we talking about the same incident? I dont think we are. The one I saw there was noone in the back seat and it was a very bad approach, lots of corrections and it was not windy. Can you find the video kin question. i have no idea what im talking about sounds like trying to embarrass in my book. Oh well have a good day