I had a bud nosen trainer 20 yrs ago, it was ok. i had some problems with some planes that were too advanced for me at the time and I went back to the eaglet trainer. it was wonderfull. 100 times better than the nosen trainer. back into hobby again after 20 yrs and I am building an aerostar from midwest. man this thing is build right. plywood fuselage and rugged. should be in the air in the next 2 weeks