Ok everyone here is a good question. Since Dave Patrick is no longer in business, who is his builder of ARF's?

I am only interested in two models:

1. His larger 1.20 size Ultimate

2. His smaller .40 size Ultimate that was sold off to Cermark.

There has to be someone out there who knows how to get ahold of one of these kits or more. The fact that he sold his smaller ones off to Cermark (because someone else was selling his same plane) lets me know there is another version out there.

Any thoughts or information would be great!