Cltmte, hey thanks for the info...It's so good to know since I haven't been there yet ! Yeah I can't wait ! I can definately see the CPP as being a money pit however, that's why I'am doing just what you just suggested..I'll be going to California here in the next 2-3 weeks, visiting my dad and all, and it sounds like there might be a TREX 450 waiting for me. I just want to run my finger across his TREX 600 lol ! I can't wait to see the difference and such.. I know I do want to get a HBK2 someday though as it does sound like also a good heli, but the TREX's are my favorite as I've read so much good stuff about them. I don't think I could fly it there such a piece of art in my mind ! Have a good one.... I think I may be moving down to Cali.... Jeff