Caution when you order from Prestwich Model Boats. My buddies and I ordered 5 pipes from them about 2 years ago, we thought we will save some shipping charge by ordering together. My credit card was charged right away. I have not seen anything from them yet. The reason after about six months was it takes time to make 5 pipes, but it been two years now. I know now we are screw out of over $1000.00. and there is nothing we can do about it.