I see your still such a poor builder that you are controlling your airplane with a box. Why don't you LEARN to build and fly Free Flight like the big boys do?

Or

When are you going to grow up and fly RC instead of Control Line.

Hell for that matter why don't you come to Jesus you (fill in the religion of your choice) scum.

I've heard it all, and from closed minded jerks like you.

I don't fly SPAD's because they are durable. They are..

I don't fly SPAD's because they are in-expensive. They are.

I don't fly SPAD's because they fly great. They do.

I fly SPAD's because I enjoy designing, building and flying from concept to end and currently are building SPAD's. I have built and flown FF, CL and RC of many different disciplines. I slope soar at Wilson, I have flown Carrier and Race and Aerobatics and am a world famous, in Topeka, Balloon killer in Control line. I am a force to be reconned with in RC combat, in Bonderaunt. And I have FF Monocopters that have won Internet challenges before.

But the one thing I've never been able to stomach is a closed minded old fuddyduddy like you. Man have I had to put up with total horses Asses that didn't like plastic coverings over silk and dope. ARF's intead of kits when any true man builds from a kit. Except I've read a bunch of older magazines that poo poo'd building from a kit where a REAL man builds from plans. And really, only a REAL modeler draws his own plans instead of fake modelers that build from plans.

You sir, really don't want to sound like a closed minded jerk do you? I didn't think so.

Now, I really have problems with this whole discussion because I've associated you with a couple people in my own club. They have seriously discussed outlawing SPADs at our field. That has been shut down because there are too many of the members that fly combat with them. But these two older gentlemans idea of participating in this hobby has pretty much been to show up at meetings, complain about something, anything, and try to pass rules to eliminate it. When they get out to the field, they might actually get an airplane out of the car. But most of the time they will walk up to one of the benches, sit and ***** for an hour or so, then go home, happy that they've brought enjoyment and brotherhood to soooo many people. One of them who actually does fly ONLY flys ARF's now. This is a serious reversal because for years he was one of the 'REAL MEN build from kit' people. Don't know if he ever was a Plans Only guy.

So, naturally I've lumped you into the group with these guys and you don't deserve that. Heck, I've never even met you so you really can't say you're as closed minded as that. I do apologize.

As far as the flying capabilities of SPADs vs Balsa I will gladly stand by and say that I have seen way more junky flying Balsa planes than I have seen bad flying SPADs. That's just a fact. Course, there are a lot more Balsa planes out there aren't there. I've seen good and bad and BUILT good and bad and FLOWN some real stinkers in ALL disciplines. Can't just limit it with one, all encompassing, dumbass statement with the panasche that you have.

To truly be helpful in the future, you might consider analyzing what the original poster is looking for and applying that to your knowledge of aircraft. If you don't have a recommendation, you might pass on putting out there. Being so closed minded though helps nobody. Heck, the guy might actually want to build something out of FFF and then your BALSA only comment would be well out .


And finally, just like anything in life, you can't just throw money at something and say 'you get what you pay for' As pointed out in many MANY references, some of the best things in life are free. Hell, some of them are priceless and yet free for the taking. That kind of statement also clues one into the ignorance of the poster. You don't really want to again show ignorance, do you?

So you don't want to hear from me? Fine. Feel free to ignore this whole bit. For those of you with a more open mind. I invite you to give SPADs a look. There are plenty of different ones out there and if you stop by the forum and ask, give a little info on what you're looking for, perhaps we can line you up with a ship that will fit your needs. Remember, just like any other aspect of this hobby there is a whole body of work out there from the basic ships of 15 years ago that flew, but could use improvement. To the later greater ships that do what other planes can not. The whole of the SPAD development is there and if you take a Dart and expect it to fly as well as a 4 star 40, well that's not quite a fair comparison is it.

Remember, I don't just fly SPAD's. I fly dang near everything, well, except for Helicopters. I really don't have the deep pockets for those.

Edit, Oooo, or Turbines, or Ducted fans. Really can't see putting that much money into one of those. They're purty neat looking though.