ORIGINAL: Pat Roy

Missing is the part where an engine part failed and he couldn't pull completely out of a maneuver in time, leaving him permanantly about 3" shorter in height than when he started. There were quite a few aerobatic maneuvers that require instant thrust from the propeller that were not done with the Raven due to the inherent lag time built into a turbo prop engine. Definately not a 3D machine as we would call one today. It went pretty quick in the up and the level, but was not then or now the end all of aerobatic aircraft. Great design, but it had it's own limitations, as will the Toucan. If you ever watched a performance with Mr. handley and the raven that was done with other aerobatic aircraft the differences in the routines was readily apparent.

RCdude,

A G-62 in the 33% Pitts would make it a lead sled. I had one with a much lighter 3.2 in it and it was a flying brick. At anything over 14 pounds it wasn't worth the effort of assembly at the field. 16-20 pounds would have been a flying disaster waiting to pull the sheet metal screws holding the wing cabanes on out of the fuselage. A much better GP product for a biplane is the Ultimate with a 3.2 or under. Great machine for aerobatics and a whole lotta fun.