Hoss, the local pylon, combat, stunt, pattern contests run just fine with the local judges. Go ask your CDs. Whether it be at the club level, the Regionals or the Nats, all the competitors put their pants on one leg at a time. There is no valid reason for a locally run Nats to perform any other way. The same guys who judge the same manuevers over and over at any contest in the country will do just fine at a Nats if you let them. My game is combat and the Nats at Richland were fantastic..