i was probably 30 or so paces. i just kinda looked at how far i was. cant say in feet exactly. but when i get my new one done wich is about done. im going to range check it running not running. and prbably twice. ive tried to cover my rear in every wich way this time. ive braded all my ext.. the reciever is in the thickest foam i could find. but this time i reaplaced the switch. battery and reciever with new. the only thing i kept the same is my servos. i have a hitec programmer. with the newest software. my servos are all newer. so they did not fall under the hitec websites needing reprogramed. but i did it anyway. so ill be balancing it tonight. then somtime this week if its not windy and rainy and cold and snowy. ill try it again.. can u believe woke up to snow on the ground. man i get tired of living in ohio... thnaks again for all the input