I agree with both parts, but sometimes I feel that the bs part is more important in the club that i am a current member. I know that I am a bit "bittter" but at a membership meeting a little while ago about $1000 of "door prizes" was givin away to members that went to the meeting, but they are still charging a good charge for membership or for the fall banquet I personally would have prefered at least a raffal to reduce club dues. I feel a bit stronger about this stuff since I have been laid off work a while ago and feeling very broke, and with a young family I don't get to the member meetings, I only have soo much time.

Saying that may not get me invited back into the club, but i feel better geting that off my chest.