muck76 that was the pipe I was going to try but when they discontinued the OS pipe the price dropped from $70 to $30 When I got it do to the idiots at Tower Hobbies it had a dent in it do to being in nothing but a mailer and they refunded my money and let me keep the pipe. I plugged the pipe filled it will water and froze it and got 90% or better of the dent out. So I figure not bad for free.