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Old 12-02-2007 | 01:52 PM
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Default RE: Question: "Model Aviation" /Dues

Hoss
I'm gonna give DM a break on the bit about MA running in the black & 'Subscription' terminology
Original DM:
MA should be operated as a viable business entity. The amount of member dues that goes to subsidize the magazine really equates to the "subscription cost"
He at least came out & said it, MA should run a more viable bottom line, and just getting folks to admit that is a giant step forward for AMA. As for 'Subscription cost'.... well, we know the pittance MA currently pulls in via real Subscriptions is almost not worth pursueing, so I dont mind so much that DM defined what he wanted to talk about as subscription cost, he even put it in quotes to show it was a term he was coining.... I let that slide, I knew what he meant even though he was borrowing a term in use.

I would like to see more info on this Postal Requirement to lie about MA costs, that is interesting & doesnt get much chat round here.


As to you quoting STL about DM calculating the 'subscription cost'
did you do that to show where DM used ball park numbers to get a ballpark answer? Nothing wrong with that, DM made it clear the figures were his estimates so I'm not gonna pick on him for that. Or did you put that reference to DM Post#24 to show the method/formula DM used to get that number? How DM clearly stated he was using 155k as the member number because he was deducting the Youth & Family ( the No-Magazine Folks), just as I used the 2005 No-Magazine number.
DM Post#24:
Assuming the audit report paints an accurate picture of the magazine operation, in round numbers, it appears as an expense of roughly $1,000.000. Divide the million by, say 155,000 (figuring that not all youth memberships or 2nd family members receive the magazine) and that works out to about $6.45. So the question becomes could we create a black & white "newsletter" including paper, ink, printing, postage and the labor to put it all together for .54 per copy? I don't know.
so, If Hoss doesnt mind me getting a quick review in for the masses playing along at home,
DM used $1mil loss / 155k ( excluded the no-mag folks) = $6.45 estimate
KE used 2005 1.132mil loss / 132k (2005 MA avg subs sent : like DM excluding no-mag folks) = $8.57
...... If folks would like to complain about DMs formula for calculating the averaged cost to member, then they should complain to DM about it & not me for using DMs formula with 2005 non-estimate numbers.

Oh Hoss, one meore thing,
You can freely use the Team XXX phrase without attrib, I dont mind & wont jump on you for stealing my schtick [8D]