ok so that all makes sence

well thanks alot for the info

i think i better stick with a RTF becuase im just learning and i already screwed up building my ARF cub.... (damm ca hinges)

thanks for all the info .. more is good too

and i think probebly go for the electristar or the nexstar select EP....

and ill make the cub my "second" plane and leave it on the shelf till im good enough for it becuse its such a nice plane and i dont want to break it