Well I do have a Viojett and KBV82 sitting here doing nothing so I dont need to spend any money.

If anyone wants to donate some 1/8 scale hydro plans (batmobile would be good too) I'd be quite happy to experiment.

If it doesn't work no big deal, at least I had fun and thats what I thought all you people wanted from this 'sport' too.

Oh and as for the no static thrust, 12lbs is hardly none ????

Come on guys, get in the spirit of experimenting. Sounds like no-one has actually tried this but you all say it wont work. I think people told Orville and Wilbur that too !!!!