Well i went ahead and ripped the tail off, no matter how I measured I was at +3 degrees and closer to 3.5 or 4. I put that in G2 and flew it around on the giant scale p-47 and it took all the trim in my xmitter. Soooo I think all I'm going to need to completely rebuild the fin, it broke on the trailing edge. I will have to fully re-sheet the bottom of the stab, but with a little corrective sanding I should be able to get everything back together. Actually now that I think about it I may be able to get the fin back on as well. Anyway, why do it once when you can do it twice!!