Thanks blw, Thats what I was thinking, I hate down thrust also if you set the wing incidence to correct the extra lift problem then you don't need down thrust, this is true on single wing models, I wasn't sure on bipes.
But after I thought about it for a while..... (that is dangerous, me thinking).....The bipes have such a high drag what difference would it make to have a little side and downthrust, plus I'm not going to be flying it in a pylon race anyway.

I'm having to change my way of thinking after all these years.