alloutcustom....grasshopper..hehehehe...that is good. seriously, I like a sense of humor. I get a little intimidated sometimes asking questions of the folks with the knowledge. The SV27 is looking like the one I may get. I was just hoping to find soemthing in the 36" to 40" range with the same performance as the SV27. I have some time until the weather will be good for boating, so I'll keep nosing around.....thank you again for the replies. Keep 'em coming if anyone has any other suggestions.

tim