So far I have only met about 20 people that have the 09. Of those 20 people i have comvinced 3-5 of them to purchase the 09 instead of the Chaos. I think part of the problem was the high cost of the 09 when it was released 1.5 years ago. At that time you could buy a 1/8 or 1/10 nitro for the same price.