Hey thanks all for your help, i have narrowed it down to Hot bodies lightning 2 pro evo or the hobao hyper 8.5 RTR. Decided to go a bit higher on my budget.. who cares

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Jaws How does your hong nor ultra lx-1 fare up to the lightning and the hyper 7.