that would help. shame you are not closer. oh well. I think we will be alright. The tiller he is going to use is a pull type tiller...for behind his lawn mower. I believe anyway. BTW just got done running my Tornado a little bit. Mainly just tuning issues. Everytime I got on it, it wanted to bog out and die. A little turn here and there and she is grabbing and going now. Dad better look out this weekend..ha ha...thanks on the comments guys.