I agree with all said in the last post. As I too have owned all in a 40% version including the Sukohi. Less the giles. If any 3D airplane is set up correctly and it is too much for you to handle, you are probably flying beyond your current ability. Just my 2cents. The best 3D flyer in California "wore out" a fourstar 120 before ever moving to a (3D) airplane. And he could do it ALL with that large underwinged trainer. BENDER