I got my lightning vx on ebay to my door for $120 brand new..with a starter kit....since then the guy I got it from sells them buy it now only..lol...I've also put some used hurricanes on my watch...they went for the same money to buy a new one or more...just because the price is low with 1 or more days left on it doesnt make a good deal..ebay prices usually jump really fast in the last hour of the auction...