Dennis,

I will have to go back and look at the trace rate but I doubt I changed it. I also have the elevator set up with NO dual rates. If ours were set up the same why does mine have ATV's of 109% and yours was around 80%? Not trying to kick a dead horse here but I have had ZERO problems and a bunch of yankin' and bankin' flights. I have never once felt any lack of elevator authority. I may just have to keep mine set up like it is to prove a point!

Gordon,

Vernon and I were flying formation at the time we both went into the loop at a relatively high speed, roughly 180-200 mph. We both throttled back as we approached the top of the loop. We were both at about 400'-500' altitude. As Vernon came over the top he said "Oh no" I could see in my peripheral vision his loop was just getting larger. He impacted at an angle just did not have enough to pull out. We were less than 2 minutes into the flight and had a full fuel load so that probably added to the situation.