thanks for the help It may sound weird but you know the little silicone cap that goes over the end of the exhaust well It wasnt in there and i put it back and I instantly could lean it way down and it runs like a raped ape now. I also wasnt running a ziptie on the exhaust coupler on the pipe side. So I think just the mix of having weird turbulence and leaks it was messing up. Thanks for the help and ehroof thanks for the baseline settings I could never find a good lowspeed basline because the book says flush and thats WAYY too rich