ALL my metal gear boxes are real LOUD. This is why I started this thread. I think that there build / quality control is a little lax to say the least. I must admit that I'm seriously thinking of taking [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7328064/anchors_7331874/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#7331874]971wright[/link]'s route and building my own.
White metal gears don't all run true.
Brass/steel gears sloppy on axles.
Plastic gears break strip to easy.

& johnmar78, is there an on line place I can get them?

Yours Simon M