thats junk doesnt even come close to looking like a cen gst the problem is that they are from china ect, that side of the world, they dont have losi, Cen, traxxas, HPI, like we do here in the U.S. well at least this part of the world so they stick to what they have, but occasionally they try to expand their products to the world, and we look at them and compare them to what we have and they look like crap .

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