Hey Harry, sorry on the low price of the 600E. I was thinking 2K but didnt want to overstate the price.

My point is the guy is looking for his first heli. He has a LOT of crashes ahead of him. The cost of a crash on the 600E could easily exceed the total cost of a plastic learner heli. When he is learning to fly he wont needs gobs of power. He can always bump to a more powerful motor in any sized heli.

The point about the headspeed is that regardless of altitude the motor will only generate so many RPM per volt (KVR). If he gets a starter coax type, you cant change the pinions to increase headspeed, with their fixed pitch there is no way to increase the bite. Same with the FP but at least there is the option to increase the RPM. I agree that at altitude you will see an increase in head speed slightly because of the lowered air density but this is limited by the motor KVR and the battery voltage.