All dressed up and ready to fly the WM 80" Extra came in at a surprising 13.5 lbz with a Saito 180 and no lead. That comes out to a 25 oz. wing loading...not bad for this type plane. I did have to put the 200mah 4 cell pack in the tank/engine box...no bog deal. With a little luck I will see how it does in the air...I am not expecting stellar performance gppd clean aerobatics.