just elevons on my nightstick, from what the designer says thats all it needs. i'm waiting for the 2cell 2100mh li-po to be delivered, until then i cant do anything else. i have to mount the batt and get the correct c.g.thats CRITICAL!! then finish covering. i'm like you dave i refuse to fly the same old model everybody else at the field has!! my witch on the broom get them every time!!