3 flights today 2 with the 450 and 1 with the 500.
on the 450 i tried my first tic tocs, not bad just about as sloppy as the ones i do on the sim
more nose in inverted hovering and more rolls.
then with the 500 and some practice with all the above i pulled off my first clean tic toc
and kept a 15 second inverted hover.
no wrecks but only by shear luck! the 500 took a dive i was getting crazy and going in way over my head throwing it around and came out of a loop sideways nose in and i orientated and pulled out full collective/throttle up only 5' from the tree,s