I agree with Crasher, sticks and Four Star are good second planes. Four Star designer was Bruce Tharpe, who left Sig and started his own operation, where he designed a new model incorporating all the mods he thought would improve the Four Star, and called it the Venture 60. Costs a bit more than the Four Star, but those who have had a chance to compare usually like the Venture better. Easier to build, flies better. Check out btemodels.com for details (not sold in stores that I know of). I also like the Easysport, and if you are aerobatically inclined the Sig Somethin' Extra can be flown mild or wild.