I shall try that, I do have a sim I work with all the time then fall off with other projects.

I can get a tourqe roll but thats about it, the thing that gets me with them is the part I thought is hard is the rudder Im having the trouble with the elevator. DOH! I can make corrections belly in no problem like waterfalls etc.

Im decent with most everything else just need to spend more time inverted which I have neglected over the years.

Man I hope my new engine mount getts here this week! I wanna go fly this one again.

Have fun !

Mike