I don't know Gene? I am currently building fixed gear for the mains. They will only stick out of the wheel well a small amount and not easily seen in the air. I tried many places for retracts to include Robart. Noone had any when I checked. I did find one custom builder for over $700 would build a set and I thought that was a bit steep for me. This is the American Eagle (kit?). It was basically foam cores and a f/glas fuse. I have had to build everything else. There was no wood in the kit. I have built it w/4 saito's, full flaps, retract nose, removable h/stab so I can get at all the servos. There is one 1/4 scale servo in the rudder, 2 hitec h/torque in the elev. Futuba ret for nose wheel,, tower for nose steering. 4 micro for engines mounted on the back of the firewall. I mounted the engines horiz. due to being my first multi and I wanted reliable operation. (I really thought about inverted.). Total weight before mains added is 11# with almost 2000 in of wing. I looked into operational ramp and door for air drops. Paint? my entire plane is now F/g and I will paint it to match the plane I flew combat sorties in Vietnam. Same numbers/colors etc. I may modify r/door later for airdrop. This has been a team of (1) building and hopefully flight test in sep/oct. Jim