ORIGINAL: rcairflr
If you look at post #5 paragraph #6, this is exactly what you said
"You can easily take 8oz off the Zenoah with an aluminum muffler. You could still leave the magneto on it and you'd have a 62oz engine. Heavier than the others, but not enough to make it a "flying brick"
Nowhere did I say Zenoah was a POS, my whole arguement was that it was too heavy.
If you look at post #7 I mentioned adding lead because of the heavier engine.
Now I am out of here....
Yup, and then I did the math using the 70oz engine weight because I KNEW somebody would hit me over the head if I used the lighter weight. I told you in post #5 that weight could be saved by switching to an aluminum muffler. And in post #6 when I actually calculated the wing loading, I used the 70oz weight. Golly ___ Somebody might even accuse me of "skewing" the numbers to favor the G38.
Which is EXACTLY why I used the 70oz weight to do the calcs.
Then you come along and tell me I'm full of BS and I'm skewing the numbers. And I explained to you AGAIN how I had used honest numbers to calculate the loading for all 3 engine choices. And you STILL act like I'm cheating.
Then you start throwing out stuff like engine mounts and spring starters to make your case, because you knew you already lost the numbers argument. I showed you in plain arithmetic that there wasn't a pinch of dirt difference between any of the 3 engine choices and that he should buy the cheap one. So you start howling on about spring starter weights and engine mounting cups. NEITHER of which is required to run the G38. So, you're proving that you can't read and you don't know a thing about the engine you are slamming. The engine that you claim will make his plane fly like a brick just happens to be an engine you obviously know jack squat about.
Your simple assertion that the G38 was too heavy implies that it's a POS. We both know it. You said it would make the plane fly like a brick. If thats not calling it a POS, I don't know what is.
Here ya go. I'll cheat and "skew" the numbers for the G38. I'll use 62oz. Oh what the hell!! Lets call it
60oz. Woohoo, now we're cheating!!!
27.56oz/sq.ft wing loading.
Big friggin DEAL!!
The average Sunday flier can't tell the difference between 25oz or 30oz loading. He just wants a sport plane for his first gasser. It's perfectly acceptable to use the G38 in that situation. He's not looking for an IMAC or 3D plane. He JUST wants to get a cheap gas engine for his first plane. Will it do the job? Yes. Is it the lightest engine in the world? No, never said it was. But it's not that much heavier that it's going to make the plane fly like a "brick".