My eyes are young enough to read what everyone writes. And Yes I read what I wrote. I also read about 2000 of your posts containing lots of negativity towards arf guys. Are my eyes needing another check-up? I agree arf guy's miss out on some of the fundamentals of building but thats what they paid for, an easier route. Maybe like anything else in life they too will learn from trial and error. Just get tired of seeing phrases like "so called arf's" and such from people who could be nicer to the new guy's and try to keep them around instead of making fun of what they bought. Just how I see it. I don't expect anyone to agree with me.

Kevin