Mr. Mugen is right! I think the saying is ; (Different strokes for different folks.) I, every now & then get an ARF. I enjoy building from a kit. I'm starting to build from plans. Maybe the next step will be designing my own plane. Just because a guy ( or gal ) Gets an ARF doesn't mean they like the hobby any less. It don't mean they're challangeing a guy that stick-builds. I've seen some strictly ARF guys atthe airfield that can fly circles aroung some " build guys".. What does that prove? It's ALL THE SAME HOBBY!!!!!