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Old 05-31-2008 | 08:35 PM
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Default RE: Need to know about this plane ASAP!!!

Kat, I don't know that plane, but I just finished a Pheonix Fun Star.

Good,

all the hinges were pre-installed and a good quality pined hinge was used vs CA hinges
The covering gook a minimum of work to iron out.

Bad,
The belly pan was 1/8" long so I had to take one end off and shorten the sides
The motor mount would not work with a four stroke, I had to replace it with a Dave Brown mount
The tank is quite small, I'm guessing around 5 oz. No way to put a bigger tank in. not enough room.
That balance was way off, requiring 6oz of lead in the muffler trough.
Two servo mounts push out of the fuselage when I fit the servo in. Had to fish them back in place and re-glue them

Good/Bad depending on how you look at it.
I replaces all of the cortrol horns with Robart ball end ones. I also replaced the #2 size rods with #4, I probably didn' need to to that but I did

My maiden was white knuckle all the way. Anything over 1/4 throttle was to fast. The controls scared you to death on low settings. I ended up cutting them way down for the second flight. Even then it was very twitchy at over 1/4 throttle. On day one, I swear that it would do three rolls a second. A click of trim was to much. Man that plane was twitchy. Then came the bad part. The covering is cleary yellow/orange color. More than a couple hundred feet away and you can't tell up from down front from back, It's a yellow blob with a mind of it's own.

Without trying, I spent a good deal of the flight inverrted. The good thing was the it would do an inside or outside loop with w three foot radius. I got it down on the ground with two really good landings. By that time, I was so constrated on the plane that I think if a gun had gone off besides me, I wouldn't have heard it. Total flight time of about 5 minutes over two days. I'm going to recover it and see if I can edge into this 3D stuff.

To sum it up, the giles you are looking at is by the same company. I would expect the construction to be like the Fun Star. Very light, 4 1/2 lbs with 6 oz of lead. I also expect will initally be a real hand full. The good thing about the model you are looking at is that the colors are opaque and well defined on the top anyway. It would be easy to put some black stripes on the bottom. My plane is going to get a new set of clothes before going airborne again.

My suggestion for you though is go pick up a Sig 4*40. With a little work, you can clip the wings by one bay each side and end up with a very good cross over plane. With the wings clipped, they are very nimble. My 4*60 would roll at about 1 roll a second with the full wing. If you add a bit bigger aileron, you can imporve that performance. If bash the kit a bit, using a lighter stock for building the tail feathers and enlarging both elevator and rudder, you end up with a very responsive plane, but one that will allow you to catch your breath now and then when needed.

I fear that although you have shown remarkably fast progress that you are not ready for a 3D plane yet. Slow down and go with a good intermediate plane like the 4*. You won't be disapointed. If you do decide on the giles, Hang on to your hat, it's going to be a ride at first. One last thing, remember that the 3D planes fly really slow. The Fun Star limmited instructions warn you to not fly at full throttle as the plane may shake apart. I'm sure the Giles has the same warning.

Don