Great reply's. BTW, I'm the second post. I do belong to AMA and a local club (joined to learn to fly, my instructor ok'd me for solo). Definitely a lot more to it than stick and rudder. I use 2.4 (DX7), so definitely have a lot to learn about frequencies etc. But there is no denying a flight sim speeds up the process. It probably helps I have over 10K of real airplane time (over 30 years since I soloed, plus over 500 carrier landings), so I know how airplanes behave. I love this quote "He is probably a young person and todays society has instant gratification as "GOD". I am the Executive Officer in a Navy Training Squadron (T-45A) in the reserves, the new generation of pilots are anything but patient. Just the way it is, us old guys better get used to it ;-) But i think what where seeing now is the video game generation, they have exceptional hand eye coordination, but definitely an all about them mentality. Just to update my progress, I built up a Pulse XT (40 size) as my second plane about 2 months ago and just maidend (spelling) a Skybolt yesterday (I love this airplane). With probably about 100 plus flights, managed to only have minor incidences on landings (prop strike (really beat up runway at our club), slightly bent gear on a bounced landing), but so far everything is intact. They tease me at me at the field because I really like to yank my planes around. These forums have been an outstanding source for info, thanks to everyone....