Congratulations StickBuilder! You've done it again. Taken a perfectly civil thread and turned it into a Builders vs. Arfers hack fest. What you did say...yes I read your comments was that you were worried about the ARF manufacturers driving off first timers in this hobby. You don't need to worry about that. In reality the ARF companies bring far more people into this hobby because of the easy building kits and very good quality planes and very good flying planes. You are just on a self serving mission to prove yourself better than the ARF guys.

As you know, I'm an ARF guy and proud of it. I came to the hobby because the ARFs provided a decent plane at a decent price. I cannot.... or don't want to build a plane at this time in my life. Doesn't make me a bad hobbiest. I just like to ARF and fly.

Go back to your builders cave and don't worry about protecting us ARFers. We don't need your protection.

The natural competion between ARF manufacturers will improve the ARF. If you don't think so...just look at the improvements in the last 10 years. ARFs get better with every model and with every manufacturer. The improvements are coming and the hobby is better for it. Some companies can't make it and they are eliminated by the market. What you say or don't won't make a peck of difference.

Your comments are inflamitory, rude, insulting and raciest. Too bad you don't think before you write. This type of comment will drive more people away then you will ever help.

Too bad.

Barry