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Old 06-12-2008 | 01:33 AM
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Default RE: Hangar 9 P-40 is JUNK


ORIGINAL: Rube Goldberg


ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder


ORIGINAL: Mr. Mugen

My eyes are young enough to read what everyone writes. And Yes I read what I wrote. I also read about 2000 of your posts containing lots of negativity towards arf guys. Are my eyes needing another check-up? I agree arf guy's miss out on some of the fundamentals of building but thats what they paid for, an easier route. Maybe like anything else in life they too will learn from trial and error. Just get tired of seeing phrases like "so called arf's" and such from people who could be nicer to the new guy's and try to keep them around instead of making fun of what they bought. Just how I see it. I don't expect anyone to agree with me.

Kevin
Kevin,

Most of the time I give back what I get. I build from kits, and from plans, as well as from scratch. I would just like to see the new guys have a fighting chance to be successful before they throw in the towel. I have seen the results of not knowing that they need to reglue, modify or outright rebuild their early attempts, and have seen the outcome left in the trash barrels at the field, often with engine/motor, radio gear and all still installed in the wreckage. I don't believe that these guys will be back.

You guys who fly mostly ARF models know that you have to do more work on the plane than the instructions tell you. These new guys do not, and if they do buy them at the local hobby store, especially the chain stores, then they won't get any direction from the store employees, because they either don't know, or don't care. Even the magazine writers are doing these guys a dis-service because it they do mention a deficiency, they just lightly touch on it, and move on.

What's wrong with the old builders among us wanting to see the new guys succeed? Again, all I have said is that the purchaser should get what he pays for, and the distributor is short sighted if he does not want repeat business from happy customers.

Bill, AMA 4720

Mr. Bill or Stick or whatever,

As I read through this thread it is pretty doggone apparent that YOU have no desire to help others in our hobby. IF you did you would point out the possible "structural deficiencies" of the typical ARF from your standpoint as a scratch builder to those that purchase the things.

Thats my .02

Rube
Rube, you need to go back and get some change for your .02. If you will check, you will find that I have been trying to help others for a long time now. Longer than you have been flying (probably). I even had a thread called the Help Desk going, but others felt that the individual threads would be more beneficial. So, before you go throwing rocks, you might want to do some research, or at least make sure that yours is not a glass house. The name is Bill Hurt, The AMA # is 4720, and the Nickname is Stickbuilder. I'm not hiding anyghing. Why do you?

Bill, AMA 4720