Thanks, it will be a few days before I can get back out to experiment. Now I have also wondered about mixing in spoilerons like daveopam mentioned. How much do you mix in? Or should I say, how much do you start with? I have a Mojo 40 that's a blast to fly, but this is one of the airplanes I can't even get to do the elevator yet. Would I start with like 1/2" of up throw on the ailerons with full up elevator or what? Thanks for your help.