The one thing some of you fail to realize is that you are comparing apples and oranges when you are talking about the DP vs Goldberg argument. The DP is either a .40 size or a 1.20. It does not good to compare the 1.20 DP to the .60/.90 size Goldberg. The fact is there is no plane in the Goldberg size range that I have found other than the WM, and nothing against WM, but there plane is not the same. If I wanted a larger plane I would not hesitate to get the DP 1.20. But the fact is, the three things that put the CG Ultimate if first place for me are Quality, Looks and size (not to big, not to small, just right).