Well I'm no longer a "Goldberg man". They can go to dog do-do if they want. I just ordered my blue 1.20DP today. According to DP some of the guys putting big engines on the 1.20 have egos to match (not their words exactly). Sandy says the big Ultimate will fly beautifully for what I want with the YS1.20 and the Hitec mini digitals I want to put on the wings. So now I'm a "DP man". I can't wait.