I'm new to the game. I dont believe everything i hear. I've been looking at the jp's and i notice a lot of people have them, which made me think if they were junk then why would so many people have them. Anyway so i've narrowed it down to either the jp-3 or the jp-4. If anyone has any pipes for sale let me know I might pick up a couple to put in my box and try on different tracks. I'm still waiting to hear from a friend about a werks pipe and some other pipe for $50 for both!!!!