Good info so far, keep it coming!

As for patience, for some reason I am not having a problem with this. I found when I started them in archery that I could be patient with them in a teaching environment. (Who knew grumpy old Dad could be NICE!)

Ken, thanks for the tips on stick movements, I wil try that next time we are out. My sons issue is he's a gamer, loves his games. So I think I will do as you suggest and let him play a bit at the beggining of each flight. I will however insist he keeps it up high to keep my heart from exploding LOL!