Steve111, re: yr #12.

DON'T YOU DARE apologize for flying CL!!!

We use engines, too, and we often have to pay for throttles we won't use and mufflers we don't want. ...AND, thereby, prove that only R/C engines sell... CL fliers never have enough altitude to fly even ONE mistake high... We are always in ground chop, never in the clear upper air... We are never outside the middle of the aircraft's path in flight, never off to one side, wondering what the air is like way over there.

I've tried RC, and - not knocking it for those who enjoy it - it was not for me. NO tactile feedback. Eye control, not reflex and learned reflex to physical feedback. I had to look, make a move, wait for the response, re-evaluate, etc... For those it works for, enjoy! For us others, we can enjoy what is enjoyable for us, most of the time...

And, if things go wrong, the wreckage is (usually) closer...