Thanks Ed i took the plane out today to fly and just about dark i was making some last min runs and found a tree. well the plane is still stuck in the tree As for now i will have to get a rope and try to get on the lim that the plane is on and shake it out Hopfully it is not hurt i broke the motor mounts on it last week when i ran it end to a tree lim. The plane dont turn real fast and i have a heck of a time missing trees with it LOL well it will get better i hope I think i am going to look at some better park flyers. I am trying to sell one of my RC trucks to help pay for a nicer plane So maybe i will have a new one soon Again thanks George Thomas Manchester GA