thanks Bill. I already have a 1/8 scale F-16 and I thought I remember seeing someone was making a smaller F-15. SM perhaps? The Rafale might be a good one. good idea. thanks. I really want something new. I had a Avation Design Rafale years ago. had a SM f-15 but just want something smaller. I like Tams new 1/12 Turbine F-16 but I don't want another F-16.