The really cool part of the previous post is that you can go through 100 of the ones on the right for a fraction of the cost (for all 100!) of the one on the left...so that when you fly the one on the left, you will have the reflexes, confidence and ability to do it. Some of the funfly guys are learning this quick...hone your skills and train your brain with a cheapo Spad that bounces...then rock the world with your dream plane...the same philosophy is catching on quick in earning your wings with a Spad before putting a lot of time, money and effort into the beauty you've always dreamed of. I did it backwards though...and spent 20 years the other way...now my dream planes are Spads Thanks Minn...a good point made with a pic is worth a thousand words. I've seen too many crashes from pilots trying to fly the plane they always wanted...before they had the confidance, experience and abilities to do it.