point noted, but that's IF I HAD a prop.... i probably wouldn't have started this thread on how to start an engine without a prop IF I HAD a prop... with a prop it's just "flick" and make sure your fingers aren't in the way when it spools up, otherwise OUCH !!!!!!!![:@] and you get to have cool scars [>:]

(i used to make and sell show quality knives (hand designed, hand made, hand polished, BEYOND razor sharp!) >>>> my fingers look like i played with a runnung blender!)